Final Minutes
ASHRAE Annual Meeting
Atlanta, GA
January 29, 2001
1. Call to Order,
Welcome, Introductions
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Joe Watson. All persons present were introduced and the Chair reviewed the agenda.
2. Meeting Attendance
Members and Corresponding Members:
Joe Watson (Chair), Terry Cornell (Vice-Chair/Research Chair), Klas Haglid (Program Chair), Bill Thomaston, Nance Lovvorn, Carl Hiller, Wayne Webster, Alex Sleiman
Corresponding Members:
Michaela Martin (Secretary), Jim Poulos, Wayne Robertson, Gus Foster, Paul Halyard
Visitors:
JB Singh, Arthur Hunt, Bruce Lindsey, Chip Berry
8 out of 10 members were present
3. General
The minutes from the Minneapolis meeting were approved as submitted.
4. Chairman’s Report (Joe Watson)
Handbook Discussion: There is a movement to modify the Handbook to be more practical. The highly technical materials will still be available from ASHRAE, however they will be offered in a different format.
A demo CD containing an electronic version of the Handbook is available. Terry Cornell will review the new CD for the TC.
ASHRAE is requesting an update of keywords for the handbook. Bill Thomaston will start this list and then circulate it to the committee for review.
ASHRAE is looking for savvy software programmers to help them with the new e-handbook.
Joe tried to coordinate our meeting schedule with Kathy Radke (TC-1.7), but they are unwilling to modify their schedule.
Carl Hiller wrote an article for the journal in August. He did not get any feedback.
A letter of support for ORNL’s database work was sent out to DOE (and was well-received).
5. Research subcommittee report (Terry Cornell)
Terry moves that TC1.8 co-sponsor a research project with TC-9.9 on the Impact of Commissioning HVAC systems on life cycle cost. Our role would be in helping TC9.9 develop a scope of work that is achievable. Wayne Robertson is concerned that participating on this may hurt our opportunity for funds for our own project. Terry said we could be a consultant to review the work statement only, and not co-sponsor it. Harvey Sachs may be interested in supporting a review of the work statement. The location of the draft work statement is at:
http://www. marbek.ca/tc99/, if anyone wants to review it.
Motion to table the issue and readdress at the next meeting: Favor, 6-0-0.
RTAR- given a priority rating. Michaela and Terry are going to develop a Work Statement to submit by May 15. It will have 2 key objectives: develop guidelines on using data and further seeding of the database. Work Statement will be ready to review by summer meeting. The database needs to be seeded in order for it take-off. The TC will like to market the database. Terry talked with EPA and FEMP and they are interested in seeding the database. LINC has a database for (loose organization of Mechanical Contractors), should have some data for database.
The grassroots ASHRAE guys don’t feel like the products of ASHRAE research are useful to them. Bodh says that the data provided by TC 1.8 is useful. In the past, good information has been pulled from the handbooks, as new research is generated. The practicing guys didn’t like this, because a lot of the old info was very useful.
The research budget was reduced from $3.3M to $2.8M. This budget normally supported 130 projects and can now only support 110 projects. The research arena will become more competitive and ASHRAE is encouraging joint projects as a result. ASHRAE would like everyone to finish their current projects.
RTAR’s are important and with them, the approval process for work statement review is expedited. Make sure that the value to ASHRAE is indicated in the research work statement (cost, handbook, etc). RTAR’s submitted in August are addressed in October. Run all RTARs through Bodh, to keep him up to speed. Work statements are due by May 15, for review at the summer meeting, but get it in ASAP and work with Bodh on it. PMS is looking for project progress, expectations, projects monitoring plan (milestones). Projects between $120K and $300K, and projects that are considered to be high risk, go to the research advisory panel for evaluation. ASHRAE wants to do high risk research and the advisory panel will solicit high risk work statements which will get close scrutiny. It is best to phase projects- if good results can be demonstrated with phase 1, additional funds would be expected to support phase 2.
LCC Research Project
Matt Mullen agreed to put together a one-page
summary of a possible research project to collect existing LCC data from
manufacturers, contractors, and available software packages to be presented to
the TC in Cincinnati.
Randall Calvert, with Taylor Systems Engineering (TSE), wrote to Harley Goodman (ASHRAE Pres), requesting co-funding to perform a life-cycle cost analysis for a project with the Sacramento Housing and Redevelopment Agency (SHRA). The project will address 11 sites and 721 housing units. TSE was retained by SHRA and they are looking for additional funds. Carl Hiller will handle this.
Rohan Nanayakkara sent a letter requesting no cost support on a BSRIA project. TC 1.8 endorsement of the work will be useful in helping them to win the contract.
R.S. Means has published an estimating guide,
"Facilities Maintenance & Repair Cost Data." Much of the HVAC related costs are based on
data collected by the US Army/Navy during the
1970's (costs have been escalated to current
equivalents). This data source should
be identified in the Handbook
Joe received a letter from Bruce Hunn, Bruce requested that we add geographic, operation and maintenance weighting factors. Carl will respond.
Results of forum from the last meeting: seems like there is a lot of data available out there, not sure how to get it. Need to establish procedures and what they want to see. Need to collect enough data points that it is statistically valid.
Cincinnati Meeting – Michaela will do a forum on the database. “Demonstration and Discussion of Web-based Construction and Maintenance Cost Database”, Michaela will be the moderator, Klas will be the coordinator. Motion: 8-0-0
Bill Thomaston proposed a seminar on DOE's
Procurement Challenge, the precursor to the Energy Star program. Michaela Martin and Klas Haglid to
investigate the feasibility of a related
program and report back to the TC in Cincinnati.
8.
Section Liaison Reports
TC 1.5, Wayne Webster, Does the TC want to piggyback ORNL’s work with the 1.5 seminar?
Std 90.1 (Nance) the committee is always looking for research support for 90.1. They are working on several addenda. Most of the contention is with Std. 62, and the residential component on ventilation requirements.
9. Old Business
Joe encouraged more Journal articles
10. New Business
E-Source is looking at maintenance costs but
appears to have underestimated the complexity of the issues. Their focus is on the market potential of
maintenance services for utilities and energy service companies.
Ann Spangler (ASHRAE) is encouraging us to develop a short course.
Rollover Roster (takes place after Cincinnati meeting) Joe is rolling off the member list. He is suggesting that Jim and Michaela be made members after the June Meeting.
Tech committee management team – Terry Cornell will be the incoming TC chair. He needs
Subchairs. Let Joe or Terry know if you’re interested in a position in the new administration.
Paul Halyard – has a company that has 1000 stores, and is watching geographic impact of conditions on maintenance requirements. Dead bug guts will eat at condensers. Carl would like to integrate anecdotal data to develop a journal article. Anyone who has experience with anecdotal stories, please send to Carl Hiller.
11. Meeting Adjourned