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Draft minutes of TC 1.8

Dallas

2/7/00

ASHRAE TC/TG/TRG ACTIVITIES SHEET

DATE:   February 17, 2000

TC/TG/TRG NO.: TC 1.8

TC/TG/TRG TITLE: Owning and Operating Costs

 

CHAIR: Joe Watson

VICE CHAIR: Terry Cornell

SECRETARY: Nance Lovvorn

TC/TG/TRG MEETING SCHEDULE        

Location-Past 12 Months          Date                            

Toronto, ON; 6/22/98 Seattle, WA 6/99

           

Location-Planned Next 12 Months Date:

Minneapolis, MN June 26, 2000; Atlanta, GA January 29, 2001

           

TC/TG/TRG SUBCOMMITTEES                                    

Function                                                Chair                

Handbook                                              Bill Thomaston

Program                                                Klas Haglid

Research                                              Terry Cornell

Standards                                             Kirk Bond

RESEARCH PROJECTS-CURRENT                                           

Project Title: RP 929, HVAC Maintenance Costs

Contractor: ADM Associates, Inc.

Monitoring Committee: Joe Watson, Terry Cornell

                       

           

LONG RANGE RESEARCH PLAN

Rank Title                                                          W/S Written      Apprv.               To RAC

  1. Data Collection Procedures                                             No        No                    No
  2. HVAC Operating Costs                                                   Draft     No                    No
  3. HVAC System Installed Costs                                        Draft     No                    No
  4. Replacement Intervals and Service Life for                                   

HVAC Equipment and Systems                                      Draft     No                    No

  1. Operating and Maintenance Design and Documen-           No        No                    No

tation   

           

HANDBOOK RESPONSIBILITIES

                                                           

Year & Volume  2003 Applications

Chapter             35

Title                             Owning and Operating Costs

No.                              New

Deadline revision: Cycle began at June 1998 meeting

Handbook Subcommittee Liaison –          Ron Shelton

                       

                       

STANDARDS ACTIVITIES-List and Describe Subjects

TECHNICAL PAPERS from Sponsored Research-Title, when presented (past 3 yrs. present & planned)                                                        

                                   

                       

STANDARDS ACTIVITIES-List and Describe Subjects

TECHNICAL PAPERS from Sponsored Research-Title, when presented (past 3 yrs. present & planned)                                                        

TC/TG Sponsored Symposia-Title, when presented (past 3 yrs. present & planned)   

TC/TG Sponsored Seminars-Title when present (past 3 yrs. present & planned)

TC/TG Sponsored Forums-Title, when presented (past 3 yrs. present & planned)

                       

JOURNAL PUBLICATIONS, when published (past 3 yrs. present & planned)

Article on service life versus age at death of HVAC equipment will be submitted

Minutes

                       

February 7, 2000

Dallas TX

General:

The meeting was called to order by Chairman Joe Watson at 2:15 P.M. in the Dallas Convention Center.

All persons present were introduced and the agenda affirmed.

Minutes from Seattle meeting approved as submitted.

Chairman’s report: (Joe Watson)

            ASHRAE Journal and Insights – Issues are full through September. Any interested parties should look at 2001 calendar to see what information might be available to fit the targeted subjects/

            Litigation Risks: - Anytime any technical committees are dealing with items relating to such, or need speaker relating to such should contact this group.

            Environmental Health – Soliciting technical committees to work with this group.

            Standards – Amanda Meitz: Some work of this TC may evolve into standards action, guideline, or MOT

             Handbook – Kirk Bond

            Research – Terry Cornell, subcommittee chair, gave report below

TC 1.8 Research Subcommittee Meeting Minutes

Sunday -- February 6, 2000, 3:00 PM, City View 3 (4th Floor, Adams Mark Hotel)

1.         Research Projects

·          New Research

  1. Programs

 

Motion By Joe Watson with second by Carl Hiller to accept RP 929 report from ADM.

Discussion followed regarding the need for a Technical Paper to be reviewed and presented.

                                                Passed 5–1-1-1(Guckelberger absent)

                                     

Reason for negative vote: Bill Thomaston felt like ADM did not do an adequate number of surveys, and there was discontinuity of mailing and representing of data he had access. More timely communications and coordination with the committee by the contractor on the progress of the researh project and the difficulties and encountered as it progressed would have enhanced the value of the research to ASHRAE.

Reason for Abstention: Wayne Webster: same reasons as given by Bill Thomaston. Jim Poulos will prepare, and Joe Watson and Terry Cornell will review a brief summary of the research project for submittal to ASHRAE."

Rollover roster – Chair, Joe Watson, responsible for submitting new roster

Voting Members Present                                                        

                                    Joe Watson       Chair                             jwatson@e3designs.com                                                   Terry Cornell      Vice Chair, Chair Research,        tcornell@gard.com        

                                    Nance Lovvorn   Secretary                     nclovvor@southernco.com

                                    Carl Hiller                                                          chiller@epri.com

                                    Alex Sleiman                             alex.sleiman@districtenergy.com

                                    Bill Thomaston – Handbook Chair            bthomaston@energen.com

                                    Wayne Webster –                                              wwebster@cyberus.ca

Voting Members Absent                                               David Guckelberger

                                   

Corresponding Members:

KirkBond           CM Standards               kirk.bond@pnl.gov

                                    Klas Haglid        CM Program Chair         Klashaglid@aol.com

                                    Harvey Sachs                                        hsachs@alumni.rice.edu

                                    Shelia Hayter                                         sheila_hayter@nrel.gov  

Guests:            

            Michaela A. Martin                     Martinma@ornl.gov

                                    Charles E. Gullege, III                 chuck.gulledge@ci.greensboro.nc.us

                                    J.B. Singh                                 JAPE7@EROLS.COM

                                    Gus Foster                                gustav.foster@conectiv.com

                                    Jim Poulos                                Jimpoulos@bpe-inc.com

                                    Paul Halyard                              phalyard@pcainspections.com

 

            Chairman Watson asked that all TC members become involved in at least one of the following areas:

Area                 Assignments

Poulos; Gullege; Sachs

                       

Programs – Klas Haglid

Service Life Forum -10:15 - 11:05 AM, Tuesday

Programs (Minneapolis)  (2 forums) in priority order

Liaison reports:

TC 1.5 Wayne Webster

            T.C. 1.7Kirk Bond – This committee meets the same time as 1.8

            T.C. 1.10 Sheila Hayter; finished handbook committee

            T.C. 6.1 Alex Sleiman - ??????????????

            SSPC 90.1 – Nance Lovvorn – Standard 90.1-1999 was published since Seattle meeting.

Old Business

"ASHRAE Journal" article: Carl Hiller was asked about the status of the ASHRAE Journal article on service life. Dr. Hiller reported that one was submitted several years ago, but it was not published. He is willing to do another.

           

New Business:

International meetings coming in the next few months are

Naples

Dublin

ASHRAE Innovative Research Project Program : ???????????????????

           

With no further business TC 1.8 was adjourned 4:15 P.M.

 

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