TC 1.8 Committee Meeting Minutes

Owning and Operating Costs

Final Minutes

ASHRAE Annual Meeting

Chicago, Illinois

Monday -- January 27, 2003, 2:15 – 4:15 PM, Palmer House Hilton, Parlor C (6)

1. Call to Order, Welcome, Introductions

Chair Terry Cornell called the meeting to order. All persons present were introduced and the Chair reviewed the agenda.

2. Meeting Attendance

Members Present:

Terry Cornell (Chair), Klas Haglid (Vice-Chair/Secretary), Michaela Martin (Program Chair), Bill Thomaston (Handbook Chair), Jim Poulos (Research Chair), Alex Sleiman (Membership Chair), Nance Lovorn, and Matt Mullen

Members Not Present:

Kirk Bond and Carl Hiller

· Roll Call/Quorum Check

- There were 8 of 10 voting members present (see above)

· Agenda Review

· Honolulu Meeting Minutes Approval

- Motioned by Alex Sleiman and seconded by Jim Poulos. Motion passed 7-0-0-1 (CNV).

Chair’s Report (T. Cornell)

· Announcements: TC/TG Chairs Meeting, etc.

· After Kansas City the voting members will be:

- Klas C. Haglid, Chair

- James F. J. Poulos, Vice Chair & Research Subcommittee Chair

- Matthew E. Mullen, Secretary

- Michaela A. Martin, Program Subcommittee Chair

- Richard T. Jones, Member

- Bruce B. Lindsay, Member

- Wayne K. Robertson, Member

- Wayne Webster, Member

· In addition, the following individuals will serve as committee officers but will not be voting members:

- John A. Shonder, Handbook Subcommittee Chair

- Alexander H. Sleiman, Membership Subcommittee Chair

- Kirk M. Bond, Standards Subcommittee Chair

- Terry L. Cornell, Webmaster

· Future Action Items

- Action Item Review - Bill Thomaston will contact person at NIST for possible involvement.

· Matt Mullen proposed future programs for justifying higher initial first costs based on future life cycle costs.

· New membership – Alex Sleiman will make efforts to contact people to increase interest and membership. Also to help facilitate future membership activities, a Membership Subcommittee was created. Initial membership will include:

- Alex Slieman – Subcommittee chair

- Richard Jones

- Wayne Robertson

- Matt Mullen

· Action Item Review

· Submission for KC events by Feb 7, 2003.

· Future handbooks will be updated every year on CD in an effort to keep information more current.

· Special publications – they are looking for suggestions for new special publications, it is currently on ASHRAE Website.

· CSI Liaison- Construction Specification Inst. – They are revising specifications currently and they should be reviewed

· We are changing! TAC is restructuring technical committees to more effective management groups, we are moving to Section 7 – Building Performance. TC 1.8 will become TC 7.3 after Kansas City.

Subcommittee Reports (Meetings held on Sunday, January 26, 2003)

· Handbook (B. Thomaston)

- Revised Chapter 35 to be incorporated into 2003 HVAC Applications Handbook

- Bill will e-mail final copy for review by secretary (Klas, e-mail: klashaglid@aol.com)

- Discussion of weighting factors; would like more information.

- John Shonder to lead effort on next revision cycle.

- AHSRAE is going to work to make handbook more relevant.

- There is going to be an effort to make information more current.

- E-Book, with annual revisions

- Handbook Subcommittee as volunteered at this meeting.

- John Shonder, Chair

- Matt Mullin

- Wayne Robertson

- Bill Thomalson

- Klas Haglid

· Research (J. Poulos)

- Research Subcommittee Chairs Meeting

- Breakfast meeting at 6:30 – two things brought up

- RAP (Research Advisory ~~Planhas~~Plan has been formed and tasked with developing a strategic ~~plann~~plan for ASHRAE research, they are asking for input and will have a draft for review by the TCs at Kansas City

- Research Project 1237-TRP

- Received three bids for our work statement.

- Three bidders were: ADM, Servidyne and University of Nebraska

- PES reviewed responses and asked questions for clarification and final evaluation.

- PES met with Jianshun Zhang, our RAC Liaison, to ask questions and guidance.

- PES, after review of the proposals and responses to PES’ questions of clarification unanimously ranked Servidyne as having the best overall plan for meeting the objectives of our Work Statement

- Jim Poulos made the motion that the bid submitted by Servidyne be accepted and seconded by Matt Mullen. Motion passed 7-0-0-1 (CNV).

- John Shonder was added to the PMS. It was generally agreed that John would bring a lot of valuable experience to the subcommittee.

· Program (M. Martin)

- Honolulu – June 22–26, 2002

o None Scheduled

- Chicago – January 25-29, 2003

o None Scheduled

- Kansas City – June 28-July 2, 2003

- Seminar: “Federal Experience with Owning and Operating Costs” (Michaela Martin will chair - will request to be scheduled either Sunday or Monday). Preliminary presentation titles are:

1. Life Cycle Analysis of Federal Energy Projects: Financing v. Direct Funding, John Shonder, ORNL

2. Purchasing Energy-Efficient Equipment, Jeff Harris, LBNL

3. Utility Rate Analyses, Wayne Roberston, Energy Ace

- Anaheim – January 24-28,2004

- Forum: “Research Status Update and what Membership Thinks Needs to be Involved and Addressed” (Jim Poulos will chair). Will try to get other relevant groups involved (i.e., IFMA – International Facilities Management Association, BOMA, ASHI – American Society of Hospital, APPA, and PRISM).

- Nashville

- Possible future sustainability or green building presentation. (M. Martin)

Section Liaison Reports

· TC 2.8 – Building Environmental Impacts and Sustainability - (W. Robertson)

· TC 5.5 – Air to Air Heat Exchange (K. Haglid)

· TC 6.1 – Hydronic Equipment and Systems & TC 6.2 – District Energy (A. Sleiman)

· TC 6.8 – Geothermal Heat Pumps (J. Shonder)

· TC 9.9 – Building Commissioning (J. Poulos)

· SSPC 90.1 – Energy Efficient Design of New Buildings & SSPC 62.1 Ventilation and Acceptable IAQ in Commercial Buildings (N. Lovvorn)

Old Business

· Journal Articles

· ASHRAE Standards Referenced in Codes

· Technical Bulletins

· ASHRAE Learning Institute

Meeting Adjourned

Members and Corresponding Members E-mail Telephone

Terry Cornell (Chair) tcornell@gard.com 847-698-5689

Klas Haglid (Vice-Chair/Secretary) klashaglid@aol.com 201-447-1839

Michaela Martin (Program Chair) martinma@ornl.gov 856-574-8688

Bill Thomaston (Handbook Chair) BTHOMAST@ENERGEN.COM 205-326-8124

Jim Poulos (Research Chair) jimpoulos@bpe-inc.com 770-270-0100

Alex Sleiman (Membership Chair) alex.sleiman@districenergy.com 651-297-8955

Nance Lovvorn, nlovvorn@charter.net 205-980-8737

Matt Mullen mullen@uemsi.com 860-871-1111

Not in attendance:

Kirk Bond kirk.bond@pnl.gov 816-587-0322

Carl Hiller chiller@davis.com 530-758-3035

Corresponding Members:

John Shonder shonderja@ornl.gov 865-574-2015

Gus Foster Connective gfcllc@comcast.net 609-442-0025

Paul Halyard

Wayne Webster

Visitors:

Henry Manczyk (Handbook Committee)

Sieglinde Kinne Colorado State U. skinne@engr.colostate.edu 970-419-8457

Wayne Robertson Energy Ace wayne@energyace.com 404-277-1590

Ken Poet LSE Eng. Inc. kpeet@lse-engineering.com 502-584-8930

Janice Peterson Portland Gen Electric jancie-peterson@pgn.com 503-603-1624

RT Jones National Engineering rtjones@nationalengineering.com 614-751-9610